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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-25-19276.15 " STATE OF MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAYS 1246 University'Avenue St. Paul,,'Minn. Mr. C. H. Armstrong, City Engineer, Rochester, Minn. 4 Dear Sir: July 22,19270 a In furtherance,of our conversation relative to your request for approval o-� the installa : tion of the "Stop" and"Go" signals at the inter- sections of First Avenue -So Wo, and Sec9nd St- S.W., and also at the inter- i : which'are traversed by Trunk section of Second Ave, S.W. and 2nd Ste SOW* Higlway'Noo-7,, 20 and 59* We do not feel that we can give our consent to "Stop" and "Go" installations as from our study of the situation in Rochester we are -convinced that it would not help improve the situation in any manner. t We agree with the traffic engineer of Chicago in his statement that a "Stop" and "Go" installation should only be,considered when it woILld actually speed up traffic and help keep the intersection clear* In the case of Rochester the effect would be the opposite and the tendency would be to create congest -ion at these * intersections, and the attention of th� drivers would be centered on the installations., whereas it should actually be centered on other traffic and pedestrian traffic on the streets. It is self evident that if a driver's attention is taken up by some mechanical contrivance that the pedestrian and others using the street with him would be thereby endangered. "Slow" signals in place of Stop and Go signals w;uld not be quite as objectionable, but,any installation in the center of the intersection is actually objectionable, and our experience ' is that traffic knobs of some kind installed in the throats of streets approaching the intersection.'are more effective than any other possible installation in the center.of the inter- section. There are of course, times when you have the rush of traffic and when this occurs the only logical way to handle the situation is by manually controlled devices,,. As a matter of fact it is at rush tJmes like this that tha automatic devices bread -down entirely as far As their usefullness is con- cerned. We will offer no objection to installation of "Slow" signals proposed to be installed in the center of 2nd St's S.W, in line with the west lili, of 12th Ave, S,W.., and another one in the center of Second St.'S.W. about 100 feet West of the west line of llth Ave. S.W,,,., 2nd Street S,W. being traversed by T.H. No. 7. On account of the situati.on.in the vicinity of St, Maryls Hos- pital., we feel that these installations will undoubtedly prove usefull in the proposed position. Yours very truly,, WFR/EL DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAYS, W. F. Rosenwald. Maintenance Engineer. VDen motion by Rommel,, secona by Erickson., the matter of the open lexcavations on the property of Otto i. Riess on Second Avenue Southeast, and on the property of S. 0. Sanderson on Secuad Street Southwest were referred to the City Attorney for his elimination of the menace caused by these open and unprotected cellars Upon motion by EricksonS second by Schroeder, Council adjVur do City Cle